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blue_cage ([personal profile] blue_cage) wrote2006-11-09 04:48 am

Quickie post, i.e., Rizal, detective stories

Jose Rizal on Wikipedia
A Jose Rizal site in both English and Tagalog.


Those pages are actually at the top of a set of book guides. If I was in the mood I'd translate them to English, but I'm a bit busy right now. O_o And my crack versions of their description (with help from [livejournal.com profile] osmalic) sound scary in the calm light of day:


[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Well, for example Ibarra - at first clueless!emo boy who ranks as Noli's Pika*Pika boy. Everyone loves him, except for the parish priest, but then who'd want an aging Dominican anyway? He's got a shoujo love story with childhood friend Maria Clara, but events (and a dashing boater by the name of Elias) just might change his destiny! Oh, btw, don't you think there's some UST between him and Padre Salvi?
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: ...................NO COMMENT ON SALVI.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage XD Fine. *erases last line*
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Padre Salvi: For Padre Salvi, see Snape.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage And Maria Clara: Somehow, she has a backbone. O_o; Almost Mary Sue-ish, because she is likely based off Jose Rizal's ideal girl at that time, but she was willing to sacrifice self for her lover, and it comes with a terrible price.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: I actually agree that she's Mary Sue, but the one thing I admire about her was how she didn't faint, not once! XD
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Mm, true.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: (And Rizal noted this, too. Heh.)
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage mm, before I forget: Placido Penitente - The name says it all. Decides to join "The Cause" after much wangsty!UST with a UST prof. Unfortunately, fanon!Placido often goes ballistic, tearing at his shirt and begging that someone, anyone, get rid of his USTs. XD I like the Placido bit.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: "I'm a stubborn uke! I make it worth your while."
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage XD oh right. Simoun: See Count of Monte Cristo for original. Edmond Dantes is a bit boring though, I think it's because Simoun did that I'm a head without a body routine in the Quiapo fair. Is actually Pika*pika boy Ibarra seeking revenge and still going emo over Maria Clara. He's so used to being emo that when he learned tha spoileralert!*Maria Clara died*spoileralert he couldn't go on with his murderous intentions. Almost blew up a house, but went all emo.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: And then in the end, Basilio realized: "Am I going to be an emo!kid like Ibarra now that Julie's dead?" -->during El Fili's epilogue, while Florentino is being noble and brave.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Basilio and Crispin - brothers who did not have time to get incestuous because one gets killed soon after they were introduced.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: (But no one's stopping anyone who wants them to be incestuous before they're introduced!)
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Basilio is then left to fend for himself and his kinda cuckoo mother, who is wandering the streets looking for them
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Capitan Tiago: actually a decent fellow, typical Filipino who doesn't mind bending the rules to get what he wants. Fond of cockfighting
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: And his daughter! ........That sounded wrong.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Might or might not have a thing for Ibarra senior, depending on what you read between the lines. (Please, don't tell us if you think so! XD)
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: No...I think the guy who told Ibarra about his dad could have, though.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Maria Clara is the apple of his eye, and his reason for living. Too bad the story ends with them separate though. And oh, yes, that officer! He was never named, was he?
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: Officer?
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage yeah. He was.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: Oh, you mean who told Ibarra about his dad. He had a name, he introduced himself in the third chapter. I...think?

Said "officer" is Tiniente Guevarra. XD


Yet another Rizal site. Ignore the graphics, and check out the list of articles pertaining to perceptions of Rizal as a hero.

Jose Rizal on Project Gutenberg. Both El Fili and Noli are translations by Charles Derbyshire. I think I have an extra copy of the translation by Leon Ma Guerrero, but what I want is a list of the quotations used in chapter headings. Anyone know where to find them?

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Re: [livejournal.com profile] holmesian Still hedging over what to write, but I did find out that doing an advanced search for "detective stories" in Project Guterberg yields works by Arthur Conan Doyle, Honoré de Balzac, and two books by Agatha Christie. The search results seem to include some horror mysteries as well, but I haven't checked it out. I'm going to download a couple of the Lock and Key Library, edited by Julian Hawthorne, to sample what he thinks were the best of the mysteries back in the days of yore. :D

The University of Adelaide e-text library has a list of books under the theme "crime". I've yet to look through the authors list and check if they missed mentioning something in their collection, but it links to a download of the complete Father Brown stories by G.K.Chesterton.

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
(Oh shit, did I just spend the past hour and a half snorting up CFUD? XD) And really, my app would be shot down immediately, I don't think I'm very good beyond random spazzing and crack!emo!porn. (Oh wait.) *looks up* Why aren't there more PoT peeps? O_o;
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
(It is addicting, isn't it? 8Db) Well, mine would be too, if it were just the rough draft. That's what you get betas for! :D (haha. xD) Because a) we keep forgetting/are too lazy to pimp, b) there are already tens of PoT RPs out there that are easier to get into, c) we shoot down any OOC-ness so very hard, d) previous track record for PoT appers isn't that great.

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so another hour gone and wtf I'm just trying to follow the doctors here. XDDDDD Oh, gyah, who are you RP-ing anyway? *buried right now under a few fight threads*

Mm. I think yeah, maybe they got turned off by the app voting period (yes, I'm reading that too! XD Help!) and yeah, there are so many RPs (PoT-only or multi-fandom) out there. It's so easy to over/under-play the character quirks.

Random bad ideas that popped out of nowhere: On the first day in camp Bianchi would greet everyone with her Poison Cooking I before using a few tentacles to develop more poisons, Agon will insult Hiruma turning gay, make crazy shit piecemeal of zombies before hitting on every girl on camp, or hahahahahahahahaha, Horio being Horio will brag about his two years tennis experience before being bitten by vampiric ducks and becoming Horio!zilla. *coughs* Oh God. *facepalms* Didn't say anything lalalalalallalalalala!
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
xDDD; I follow the ES21 cast, Angel Sanct cast, Tomo, and Chisame+Chizuru and PoT cast, normally. Thankfully, they overlap sometimes. Occasionally I follow the DGM cast. xD; And Gantz. Nishi~ Sometimes Bleach cast. Need to watch for Kodachi from Ranma more too. It does help that I know generally which posts they're likely to post in, though. And I play Atobe. xD;

Ooooh, well, I still think the app voting is a good idea. It gives the community a heads up on potential problems that might come from a certain character and flush that out before they get in (ie: Akito from Furuba, or someone like that). Also keeps out potential OOC people. I will never stop being glad I voted out the damn valley girl-esque!Mukahi app that showed up once. (What do you need help on? xD?) Yeaaaah, so most PoT RPers don't bother, 'cause they think it's too much trouble. xD;

Haha, oh god, I want a Bianchi so badly. xD; Agon would be weird in camp, since everyone from ES21 cast so far is pre-Christmas Bowl. We actually had a Horio briefly! :D Didn't stay long though. D: Idled out. But yeah, they were briefly considering Horiozilla... I can't remember if they actually went through with that? And the vampire ducks are awesome, and Niou got swallowed by one once. xD; And saw magical mushrooms, uh. 8Db But Niou's gone now. And Ishida's gone too, oh geez. T________T

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
So far I've traced some Hiruma with Katou lovin' (my eyes bugged out when I saw that!), a bit of Cabin 10 love, some Legal Drug action, a few dead people (oh, so people DO die! XD) and I think I found a really old post about the cfud sixth month anniversary with an Inui and Renji wandering about? I've also stopped by the wiki, and learned that girls top boys hands down, Rikuou has a zipper fetish, panty raids happen, and I should fear genderswitching viruses. O_o Does that sum up the experience? XD Ohohohohohoho, ore-sama! *bows*

Hm, I guess you do have a point, since it's so easy to stop being IC when tentacled monsters and people left and right can hit on you. O_O; Ugh. The idea of valley girl-esque!Mukahi should be shot! It's up there with apron only!Sanada in the list of OOC hatred. (Okay, so apron only!Sanada is giving me hives now shouldn't have thought about that yay!)

I won't be able to decide who to do for PoT, because yeah, it's been a while. XD *waves at Fudoumine detective agency walking away*

Oh, gah, well, imagine what havoc Bianchi would cause if someone who looks like Romeo is walking around camp! XD Waaaah, I want to see that! Mm, but Agon's history with Hiruma would bear telling, you know. XD I think even moogles won't revive them. ^^; Oh wow, Horiozilla would've been totally cool, and then someone will try to tame him and turn him into a camp tourist attraction or somethin' under threat of the Inui Juice. XD Niou got swallowed by a vampire duck? O_______o; WHAT?! *shock* The flora and fauna around there's definitely scary.

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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
The Hiruma/Katou thing is hilarious, because they just keep goading each other on. xD; Cabin 10! Is fun, yes. Himejima and Kio, haha. (People do die! And then they get revived through moogles. 8Db) And oooh, wow, haha Inui and Renji. Wandering about? Which was this? O: And yeah, CFUD is basically a "if it's funny, go for it" type of RP. 8D With, uh, strictness to make sure people are IC. :D

Yeah... I mean, characters develop through the RP (like Ari for example), but that's something that happens over time, and the base personality is still there. OOCness... isn't tolerated, yeah. And yeah, I kind of slammed the Mukahi down. ^^; I really need to stop being so harsh with PoT apps though; I have trouble giving the benefit of the doubt to people who would probably deserve it. Ehehe. (...Apron only!Sanada, whut. I'm not going to ask.)

xDDD; Wait, what's your current fandom then?

We need Lamboooooooooo. xD And I guess? But dude, the moogles have dealt with Ishida and Nishi's rivalry; they can deal with Agon and Hiruma. xD; (Ishida and Nishi have killed each other... is it 37 times now? Ah, well, it's ended. >: ) xD; Well, Horiozilla would only happen because of camp, and camp effects don't typically last that long anyway. O: Niou got swallowed by his vampire duck, yeah, but the vampire duck also grew huge 'cause of toxic forest water. 8Db And yeah. xD

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's particularly evil, since I've read both series and now I can't see them apart. Guh! XD I feel the gay love pheremones just coming out of that cabin, hey! And I have no idea how I got to that post, I was wandering around the wiki, I think, and the thread was mentioned along the way. I think they were drunk on beer, like, I think Inui was making out through dirty algorithm talk with Excel and well, it was pretty weird. XD Oh, yeah, it's a riot, and agh, people can bodyswitch too! (Komui/Ishida/Cake = OTP ♥)

Well, if you think aboutit, it's within your rights to slam them down, since you'll be interacting with them till the die permanently, escape, turn into a tentacle monster or quit, whichever happens first. I guess it's hard to get the nuances of the full character with the meager screentime most PoT character gets, and they (the apps) probably spent that time not paying attention and fangirling like crazy. (And yeah, apron-only!Sanada, the stuff of nightmares. I think the only possible explanation is he was in the bath, got attacked, grabbed the sword he always brings with him, defends himself, and then grabbed the first article of clothing he found before going down to kick some Hyotei ass. Uh. Oh God. *puts crack alert on that*)

I was (or still am) in PoT, HikaGo, Detective, Conan, Angel Sanct, Yami no Matsuei, D.Gray-man, Bleach, Tantei Gakuen Q, Naruto, FF 4 & 6, ES21, Yu-gi-oh!, HanaKimi, Juuni Kokki, Vagrant Story, and some more, I just can't recall, really. O_o I'm like a human sponge when it comes to detail, so I remember most of the characters in those. ^^;

Waai, if you have Lambo do you will infuse a level of crack with his ten year canon! Imagine what would happen if people get hit, nooooo~♥ Bianchi would be the new cook and people will die more quickly and stuff. XD (What? Oh, that explains that bit in the Ishida thread about those vampire ducks in his bed. I was wondering what he meant about those deaths!) Oh, damn, What is this, a list of all potential cataclysmic events to happen in camp? XD Oh, damn. I think I should stick to flirting around with the Fudoumina detective agency idea now, the crack concentration's just too high now. ^o^;;;
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
xDDD; Drunk on beer... oh, there was probably still alcohol back then. Either that, or the alcohol berries. They might have been chibi then, too, but the icons are probably gone now. xD; ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Basically. Except sex. And sugar. And now alcohol. xD;

I guess? Haha. I just feel bad about it sometimes, 'cause the number of people who get in v. the number of people who app is ridiculously small. xD; (Uuuuuh. haha whut.)

Oh wow, that's a lot. xD; Tantei Gakuen Q! I need to catch up on that. :D

*g* Well, the 10 year bazooka isn't likely to hit other people, since Lambo almost always aims it at himself. And anyways, I'd always wondered what would happen if you shot the bazooka at someone who would be dead within ten years, because you're supposed to switch places with your self ten years from the future. If nothing happened, or if you just disappeared for five minutes... that would be a really, really horrible premonition, seriously.

xD; It's not that much crack, really.

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahaha, no, the icons are still there and it was real beer, apparently. O_O I really should try to track back where the heck I found it, shouldn't I? Hey, I heard cigs are out now too. *points to Katou*

My friend's fault totally. She stops by with a bunch of anime or manga, leaves it in the comp until I look at it. Then I get hooked. She's done this trick on me for around a dozen times already, so yeah, twelve of my fandoms are because of her, totally. XD I like having friends like that.

Oh yeah, that would be totally weird if it turns out you're dead already! What, you turn into a pile of ash for a few minutes. XDXD


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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, that's odd, I can't remember at all. ^^; And nah, I don't think cigs are out? They were briefly, when the store got blown up, but they're back again.

Haha, nice. I wish I could do that with my friends, but the only IRL friend I have at the moment that follows anime isn't fond of shounen much at all.

Or just... disappear. Yeah, that'd be kind of bad. xD;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
It must've been crazy back then. XD Oh, cigs are back in? I guess Sanzo and Katou did their point weapons bit on people in protest and cig withdrawal. ^_^;;;

Aha, that's just - sad. Shounen anime is for everyone, male, female, young and old, BL lobers or homophobes! ♥

Oh, crap. So if you're dead when the ten year cannon hits you, wouldn't that mean everyone who wants to kill you now has a valid reason for their attempts? After all, you're dead in ten years' time! XD
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Haaah, they were special times. One of the most awesome things was everyone's last minute spam scramble to hit 1mil comments before the New Years. *g* And I think they're back?

Yus! >:

xDDD;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I admit, I was hunting for that 1 million comments thread, it sounded completely insane. XD 1 million! Didn't lj say something like, "Stop flooding us! Waaaah! *emo tears*"

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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
xDDD; I. I remember vague mentioning of "we broke LJ!" 'cause there was a brief database error or something. xD; THE MOON WAS FALLING. Or no, that was camp anniversary. xD; I think. Yeah. xDDD

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs* LJ, the breeding ground of insanity. :D BTW, how is mama!Atobe doing? I've been reading a lot about omelettes lately.O_O
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
xDDD; Insisting that he's not the mother, dammit. We haven't done much, 'cause we all get on at horrendously weird schedules, so. ^^;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
XD It doesn't help that the egg looks like Ryoma, but~♥ Well, you have the rest of the week! I wish you good luck in going insane with the eggbaby! ♥
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed, haha. xD And yeah, probably, after midterms.