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blue_cage ([personal profile] blue_cage) wrote2006-11-09 04:48 am

Quickie post, i.e., Rizal, detective stories

Jose Rizal on Wikipedia
A Jose Rizal site in both English and Tagalog.


Those pages are actually at the top of a set of book guides. If I was in the mood I'd translate them to English, but I'm a bit busy right now. O_o And my crack versions of their description (with help from [livejournal.com profile] osmalic) sound scary in the calm light of day:


[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Well, for example Ibarra - at first clueless!emo boy who ranks as Noli's Pika*Pika boy. Everyone loves him, except for the parish priest, but then who'd want an aging Dominican anyway? He's got a shoujo love story with childhood friend Maria Clara, but events (and a dashing boater by the name of Elias) just might change his destiny! Oh, btw, don't you think there's some UST between him and Padre Salvi?
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: ...................NO COMMENT ON SALVI.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage XD Fine. *erases last line*
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Padre Salvi: For Padre Salvi, see Snape.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage And Maria Clara: Somehow, she has a backbone. O_o; Almost Mary Sue-ish, because she is likely based off Jose Rizal's ideal girl at that time, but she was willing to sacrifice self for her lover, and it comes with a terrible price.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: I actually agree that she's Mary Sue, but the one thing I admire about her was how she didn't faint, not once! XD
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Mm, true.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: (And Rizal noted this, too. Heh.)
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage mm, before I forget: Placido Penitente - The name says it all. Decides to join "The Cause" after much wangsty!UST with a UST prof. Unfortunately, fanon!Placido often goes ballistic, tearing at his shirt and begging that someone, anyone, get rid of his USTs. XD I like the Placido bit.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: "I'm a stubborn uke! I make it worth your while."
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage XD oh right. Simoun: See Count of Monte Cristo for original. Edmond Dantes is a bit boring though, I think it's because Simoun did that I'm a head without a body routine in the Quiapo fair. Is actually Pika*pika boy Ibarra seeking revenge and still going emo over Maria Clara. He's so used to being emo that when he learned tha spoileralert!*Maria Clara died*spoileralert he couldn't go on with his murderous intentions. Almost blew up a house, but went all emo.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: And then in the end, Basilio realized: "Am I going to be an emo!kid like Ibarra now that Julie's dead?" -->during El Fili's epilogue, while Florentino is being noble and brave.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Basilio and Crispin - brothers who did not have time to get incestuous because one gets killed soon after they were introduced.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: (But no one's stopping anyone who wants them to be incestuous before they're introduced!)
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Basilio is then left to fend for himself and his kinda cuckoo mother, who is wandering the streets looking for them
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Capitan Tiago: actually a decent fellow, typical Filipino who doesn't mind bending the rules to get what he wants. Fond of cockfighting
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: And his daughter! ........That sounded wrong.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Might or might not have a thing for Ibarra senior, depending on what you read between the lines. (Please, don't tell us if you think so! XD)
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: No...I think the guy who told Ibarra about his dad could have, though.
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage Maria Clara is the apple of his eye, and his reason for living. Too bad the story ends with them separate though. And oh, yes, that officer! He was never named, was he?
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: Officer?
[livejournal.com profile] blue_cage yeah. He was.
[livejournal.com profile] osmalic: Oh, you mean who told Ibarra about his dad. He had a name, he introduced himself in the third chapter. I...think?

Said "officer" is Tiniente Guevarra. XD


Yet another Rizal site. Ignore the graphics, and check out the list of articles pertaining to perceptions of Rizal as a hero.

Jose Rizal on Project Gutenberg. Both El Fili and Noli are translations by Charles Derbyshire. I think I have an extra copy of the translation by Leon Ma Guerrero, but what I want is a list of the quotations used in chapter headings. Anyone know where to find them?

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Re: [livejournal.com profile] holmesian Still hedging over what to write, but I did find out that doing an advanced search for "detective stories" in Project Guterberg yields works by Arthur Conan Doyle, Honoré de Balzac, and two books by Agatha Christie. The search results seem to include some horror mysteries as well, but I haven't checked it out. I'm going to download a couple of the Lock and Key Library, edited by Julian Hawthorne, to sample what he thinks were the best of the mysteries back in the days of yore. :D

The University of Adelaide e-text library has a list of books under the theme "crime". I've yet to look through the authors list and check if they missed mentioning something in their collection, but it links to a download of the complete Father Brown stories by G.K.Chesterton.
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
xDDD; Drunk on beer... oh, there was probably still alcohol back then. Either that, or the alcohol berries. They might have been chibi then, too, but the icons are probably gone now. xD; ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Basically. Except sex. And sugar. And now alcohol. xD;

I guess? Haha. I just feel bad about it sometimes, 'cause the number of people who get in v. the number of people who app is ridiculously small. xD; (Uuuuuh. haha whut.)

Oh wow, that's a lot. xD; Tantei Gakuen Q! I need to catch up on that. :D

*g* Well, the 10 year bazooka isn't likely to hit other people, since Lambo almost always aims it at himself. And anyways, I'd always wondered what would happen if you shot the bazooka at someone who would be dead within ten years, because you're supposed to switch places with your self ten years from the future. If nothing happened, or if you just disappeared for five minutes... that would be a really, really horrible premonition, seriously.

xD; It's not that much crack, really.

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-10 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahahahahaha, no, the icons are still there and it was real beer, apparently. O_O I really should try to track back where the heck I found it, shouldn't I? Hey, I heard cigs are out now too. *points to Katou*

My friend's fault totally. She stops by with a bunch of anime or manga, leaves it in the comp until I look at it. Then I get hooked. She's done this trick on me for around a dozen times already, so yeah, twelve of my fandoms are because of her, totally. XD I like having friends like that.

Oh yeah, that would be totally weird if it turns out you're dead already! What, you turn into a pile of ash for a few minutes. XDXD


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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-11 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, that's odd, I can't remember at all. ^^; And nah, I don't think cigs are out? They were briefly, when the store got blown up, but they're back again.

Haha, nice. I wish I could do that with my friends, but the only IRL friend I have at the moment that follows anime isn't fond of shounen much at all.

Or just... disappear. Yeah, that'd be kind of bad. xD;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
It must've been crazy back then. XD Oh, cigs are back in? I guess Sanzo and Katou did their point weapons bit on people in protest and cig withdrawal. ^_^;;;

Aha, that's just - sad. Shounen anime is for everyone, male, female, young and old, BL lobers or homophobes! ♥

Oh, crap. So if you're dead when the ten year cannon hits you, wouldn't that mean everyone who wants to kill you now has a valid reason for their attempts? After all, you're dead in ten years' time! XD
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Haaah, they were special times. One of the most awesome things was everyone's last minute spam scramble to hit 1mil comments before the New Years. *g* And I think they're back?

Yus! >:

xDDD;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I admit, I was hunting for that 1 million comments thread, it sounded completely insane. XD 1 million! Didn't lj say something like, "Stop flooding us! Waaaah! *emo tears*"

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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
xDDD; I. I remember vague mentioning of "we broke LJ!" 'cause there was a brief database error or something. xD; THE MOON WAS FALLING. Or no, that was camp anniversary. xD; I think. Yeah. xDDD

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs* LJ, the breeding ground of insanity. :D BTW, how is mama!Atobe doing? I've been reading a lot about omelettes lately.O_O
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
xDDD; Insisting that he's not the mother, dammit. We haven't done much, 'cause we all get on at horrendously weird schedules, so. ^^;

[identity profile] blue-cage.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
XD It doesn't help that the egg looks like Ryoma, but~♥ Well, you have the rest of the week! I wish you good luck in going insane with the eggbaby! ♥
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[identity profile] ashesto.livejournal.com 2006-11-13 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed, haha. xD And yeah, probably, after midterms.